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Thanks!
Tuesday, March 22, 2005
Sony Pictures are a bunch of f@#@ heads
The story goes: I placed the Kungfu Hustle DVD online for sale at ebay. Then it was pulled by ebay saying that they were contacted by Sony Pictures that I am infringing on their copyright policies. I contacted Sony and they gave me a canned answer. I responded angrily demanding an explanation for double standards and they didn't respond. Once again, I posted the item on ebay after 1 week and they pulled it again. Here are the email exchanges, starting from the earliest.
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Dear Yee-Wei Chai (ywchai@mac.com),
**PLEASE READ THIS IMPORTANT EMAIL REGARDING YOUR LISTING(S)**
We would like to let you know that we removed your listing:
6379569310 Kung Fu Hustle DVD Collector's Gift Set
because the intellectual property rights owner notified us, under penalty of perjury, that your listing or the item itself infringes their copyright, trademark, or other rights.
We have credited any associated fees to your account. We have also notified the bidders that the listing(s) was removed, and that they are not obligated to complete the transaction.
If you relist this or any other similar items on eBay, your account likely will be suspended.
If you believe your listing was ended in error, or have questions regarding the removal of this listing, please contact the intellectual property rights owner directly at:
Sony Pictures Entertainment
piracy@spe.sony.com
eBay is available to answer questions, but since it is the rights owner that requested the removal of your listing(s), we encourage you to contact them first.
For more information on eBay's cooperation with rights owners through the VeRO Program, and a list of rights owners that have created About Me pages, please visit:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/confidence/vero-removed-listing.html
http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/vero-aboutme.html
Thank you for your cooperation.
Regards,
Customer Support (Trust and Safety Department)
eBay Inc
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And so I responded:
Yee-wei Chai
03/03/2005 04:55 PM
To: piracy@spe.sony.com
cc:
Subject: RE: ebay listing ended
Hello,
I recently had an ebay listing removed by the ebay Vero system and I
wasn't given a proper reason why it had infringed on any interllectual
ppty. Your email was listed for contact so I want to know what was the
reason for so? The DVD is original, everything was new and why shld I
be penalised for listing something that is not pirated?? My ebay record
has been perfect and with such removal you have seriously impacted my
image on ebay.
The DVD in question was 6373700920 Kung Fu Hustle Limited Edition
Collector's Gift Set DVD. It was an official release and purchased from
HK. What is the problem here?? Could you kindly explain??
Yee-wei Chai
ebay id yeeweichai
-----------------------------------------------------
Then I got a response from Sony Pictures:
From: Piracy@spe.sony.com
Subject: RE: ebay listing ended
Date: 11 Mar 2005 AM 02:28:58
To: ywchai@mac.com
Sony Pictures Classics Inc. ("SPC") holds the exclusive right to distribute the motion picture, "Kung Fu Hustle" worldwide in all formats. As such, SPC is the only entity authorized to distribute this motion picture for sale in any format worldwide. SPC has not yet released this motion picture in the United States theatrically or in home entertainment. Any other company or individual that sells this motion picture or offers this motion picture for sale in the United States infringes SPC's exclusive distribution rights in the United States
------------------------------------------------------------
Then I replied again:
From: Yee-Wei Chai
Date: 11 Mar 2005 AM 11:17:02
To: Piracy@spe.sony.com
Cc: send-news-suggestions@cnet.com, harry@aintitcool.com, answerman@gmail.com
Subject: Re: ebay listing ended
Dear Sony Pictures,
This doesn't makes sense. Plenty of people sells Code 1 DVDs to the rest of the world even though they are not released (or never released) and no one is going after these individuals. I live in a region Code 3 country (Singapore), but Code 1 discs are available everywhere. Does it make all these retailers illegal? Furthermore, I see other ebay selllers still listing this item, as well as other Asia DVDs/CDs sites like "Yesasia.com" selling the same item as well worldwide including US. What gives them more right to do so than myself? Are you coming after me because I am easier to scare/pick on? Why don't you pick on someone your own size.
I am re-selling my DVD to someone else in other parts of the world, not just US. Piracy is a term used for thieves and I am certainly not pleased for being branded as such when what I am doing is exactly what everyone else on ebay is doing - selling different region DVDs to places which are of not the same region indicated.
This region coding technology is a chore and a hassle in an extremely interconnected world of today. Everyone is more international than ever before thanks to the proliferation of understanding between cultures and countries. To set up this region coding to prevent reduced profits due to your inefficient distribution penalizes those individuals who are well travelled and speak multiple languages. I am a fan of japanese movies, HK movies, US movies, and as a result of your region coding, it has extremely inconvenienced me in my pursuit of exploring the different myriad of movies out there. Would the only legal solution for people like me (which there are plenty) be to purchase a DVD player from each different region so as to enjoy DVDs from different countries?
I am copying this email message to Cnet, ainitcool.com, as well as Roger Ebert in hopes that this ridiculous issue of region coding which was introduced to the world by the selfish media giants, may be brought to more attention and generate discussion.
I love movies, and I love music. I have always sought to support the movie and music industry by purchasing originals although I live in a region which sees the proliferation of pirated medias. I have even sought to study film in college and is now in the process of shooting my own short film. But in recent years, the media giants have been seeking many ways to prevent piracy and their methods have been taking its toll on legal supporters like myself. In light of all the "rules and regulations" set by these bodies, it is giving the "law-abiding" end-users less reason to support them. There's always the big media firms complaining about the how much profits they are losing through piracy and how they have to implement DRM to fight the pirates. But who is speaking up for the legitimate users like us who are getting their rights shreds to bits over the years?
Yee-Wei Chai
Singapore
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And after more than 1 week, I still haven't heard back from Sony. So thus I relisted the item, seeing that tons of people are still selling Kung Fu Hustle on ebay, obviously ebay didn't go after them. But 1 day after listing it, it got removed again. This time I am mighty pissed as expected.
Here's my latest response back to Sony again:
From: Yee-Wei Chai
Date: 22 Mar 2005 AM 10:47:30
To: whyended@ebay.com
Cc: piracy@spe.sony.com
Subject: Re: VeRO NOTICE: eBay Listing(s) Removed - VeRO Program
Dear Ebay and Sony,
I do not understand why is my item being removed/unallowed to sell on ebay when a search of kung fu hustle results in so many other listing that are legit and even allowed to complete auction? This is the 2nd time this has happened. I have contacted Sony regarding my item and they gave a unreasonable and unsatisfactory answer. I responded but they never answered back for more than a week. The double standards by Sony and ebay (vero) is unacceptable.
I seriously demand an explanation why am I not allowed to sell this item when others could? What makes my act one of piracy versus the rest of the ebayers?? Why am I targeted?
The last response from Sony is as follows:
Sony Pictures Classics Inc. ("SPC") holds the exclusive right to distribute the motion picture, "Kung Fu Hustle" worldwide in all formats. As such, SPC is the only entity authorized to distribute this motion picture for sale in any format worldwide. SPC has not yet released this motion picture in the United States theatrically or in home entertainment. Any other company or individual that sells this motion picture or offers this motion picture for sale in the United States infringes SPC's exclusive distribution rights in the United States.
Then please answer my questions:
1) Why are other ebayers allowed to sell the same item I am selling?
2) If "SPC is the only entity to distribute the picture in any format worldwide", why are retailers in Hong Kong and Singapore allowed to sell them everywhere? These include legitimate companies like HMV and Tower Records
3) If "Any other company or individual that sells this motion picture or offers this motion picture for sale in the United States infringes SPC's exclusive distribution rights in the United States.", why are US online retailers like Yesasia.com allowed to do so, and even continue to do so after taking down my listing? Why the double standards?
I expect a response from both ebay and sony picture classics regarding this issue, and addressing all the points I have listed above.
Regards,
Yee-Wei
----------------------------------------
I will update the site with my latest saga on this issue so check back often to see what these shitheads at Sony and ebay has got to say.
---------------------------------------
Dear Yee-Wei Chai (ywchai@mac.com),
**PLEASE READ THIS IMPORTANT EMAIL REGARDING YOUR LISTING(S)**
We would like to let you know that we removed your listing:
6379569310 Kung Fu Hustle DVD Collector's Gift Set
because the intellectual property rights owner notified us, under penalty of perjury, that your listing or the item itself infringes their copyright, trademark, or other rights.
We have credited any associated fees to your account. We have also notified the bidders that the listing(s) was removed, and that they are not obligated to complete the transaction.
If you relist this or any other similar items on eBay, your account likely will be suspended.
If you believe your listing was ended in error, or have questions regarding the removal of this listing, please contact the intellectual property rights owner directly at:
Sony Pictures Entertainment
piracy@spe.sony.com
eBay is available to answer questions, but since it is the rights owner that requested the removal of your listing(s), we encourage you to contact them first.
For more information on eBay's cooperation with rights owners through the VeRO Program, and a list of rights owners that have created About Me pages, please visit:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/confidence/vero-removed-listing.html
http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/vero-aboutme.html
Thank you for your cooperation.
Regards,
Customer Support (Trust and Safety Department)
eBay Inc
-----------------------------
And so I responded:
Yee-wei Chai
03/03/2005 04:55 PM
To: piracy@spe.sony.com
cc:
Subject: RE: ebay listing ended
Hello,
I recently had an ebay listing removed by the ebay Vero system and I
wasn't given a proper reason why it had infringed on any interllectual
ppty. Your email was listed for contact so I want to know what was the
reason for so? The DVD is original, everything was new and why shld I
be penalised for listing something that is not pirated?? My ebay record
has been perfect and with such removal you have seriously impacted my
image on ebay.
The DVD in question was 6373700920 Kung Fu Hustle Limited Edition
Collector's Gift Set DVD. It was an official release and purchased from
HK. What is the problem here?? Could you kindly explain??
Yee-wei Chai
ebay id yeeweichai
-----------------------------------------------------
Then I got a response from Sony Pictures:
From: Piracy@spe.sony.com
Subject: RE: ebay listing ended
Date: 11 Mar 2005 AM 02:28:58
To: ywchai@mac.com
Sony Pictures Classics Inc. ("SPC") holds the exclusive right to distribute the motion picture, "Kung Fu Hustle" worldwide in all formats. As such, SPC is the only entity authorized to distribute this motion picture for sale in any format worldwide. SPC has not yet released this motion picture in the United States theatrically or in home entertainment. Any other company or individual that sells this motion picture or offers this motion picture for sale in the United States infringes SPC's exclusive distribution rights in the United States
------------------------------------------------------------
Then I replied again:
From: Yee-Wei Chai
Date: 11 Mar 2005 AM 11:17:02
To: Piracy@spe.sony.com
Cc: send-news-suggestions@cnet.com, harry@aintitcool.com, answerman@gmail.com
Subject: Re: ebay listing ended
Dear Sony Pictures,
This doesn't makes sense. Plenty of people sells Code 1 DVDs to the rest of the world even though they are not released (or never released) and no one is going after these individuals. I live in a region Code 3 country (Singapore), but Code 1 discs are available everywhere. Does it make all these retailers illegal? Furthermore, I see other ebay selllers still listing this item, as well as other Asia DVDs/CDs sites like "Yesasia.com" selling the same item as well worldwide including US. What gives them more right to do so than myself? Are you coming after me because I am easier to scare/pick on? Why don't you pick on someone your own size.
I am re-selling my DVD to someone else in other parts of the world, not just US. Piracy is a term used for thieves and I am certainly not pleased for being branded as such when what I am doing is exactly what everyone else on ebay is doing - selling different region DVDs to places which are of not the same region indicated.
This region coding technology is a chore and a hassle in an extremely interconnected world of today. Everyone is more international than ever before thanks to the proliferation of understanding between cultures and countries. To set up this region coding to prevent reduced profits due to your inefficient distribution penalizes those individuals who are well travelled and speak multiple languages. I am a fan of japanese movies, HK movies, US movies, and as a result of your region coding, it has extremely inconvenienced me in my pursuit of exploring the different myriad of movies out there. Would the only legal solution for people like me (which there are plenty) be to purchase a DVD player from each different region so as to enjoy DVDs from different countries?
I am copying this email message to Cnet, ainitcool.com, as well as Roger Ebert in hopes that this ridiculous issue of region coding which was introduced to the world by the selfish media giants, may be brought to more attention and generate discussion.
I love movies, and I love music. I have always sought to support the movie and music industry by purchasing originals although I live in a region which sees the proliferation of pirated medias. I have even sought to study film in college and is now in the process of shooting my own short film. But in recent years, the media giants have been seeking many ways to prevent piracy and their methods have been taking its toll on legal supporters like myself. In light of all the "rules and regulations" set by these bodies, it is giving the "law-abiding" end-users less reason to support them. There's always the big media firms complaining about the how much profits they are losing through piracy and how they have to implement DRM to fight the pirates. But who is speaking up for the legitimate users like us who are getting their rights shreds to bits over the years?
Yee-Wei Chai
Singapore
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
And after more than 1 week, I still haven't heard back from Sony. So thus I relisted the item, seeing that tons of people are still selling Kung Fu Hustle on ebay, obviously ebay didn't go after them. But 1 day after listing it, it got removed again. This time I am mighty pissed as expected.
Here's my latest response back to Sony again:
From: Yee-Wei Chai
Date: 22 Mar 2005 AM 10:47:30
To: whyended@ebay.com
Cc: piracy@spe.sony.com
Subject: Re: VeRO NOTICE: eBay Listing(s) Removed - VeRO Program
Dear Ebay and Sony,
I do not understand why is my item being removed/unallowed to sell on ebay when a search of kung fu hustle results in so many other listing that are legit and even allowed to complete auction? This is the 2nd time this has happened. I have contacted Sony regarding my item and they gave a unreasonable and unsatisfactory answer. I responded but they never answered back for more than a week. The double standards by Sony and ebay (vero) is unacceptable.
I seriously demand an explanation why am I not allowed to sell this item when others could? What makes my act one of piracy versus the rest of the ebayers?? Why am I targeted?
The last response from Sony is as follows:
Sony Pictures Classics Inc. ("SPC") holds the exclusive right to distribute the motion picture, "Kung Fu Hustle" worldwide in all formats. As such, SPC is the only entity authorized to distribute this motion picture for sale in any format worldwide. SPC has not yet released this motion picture in the United States theatrically or in home entertainment. Any other company or individual that sells this motion picture or offers this motion picture for sale in the United States infringes SPC's exclusive distribution rights in the United States.
Then please answer my questions:
1) Why are other ebayers allowed to sell the same item I am selling?
2) If "SPC is the only entity to distribute the picture in any format worldwide", why are retailers in Hong Kong and Singapore allowed to sell them everywhere? These include legitimate companies like HMV and Tower Records
3) If "Any other company or individual that sells this motion picture or offers this motion picture for sale in the United States infringes SPC's exclusive distribution rights in the United States.", why are US online retailers like Yesasia.com allowed to do so, and even continue to do so after taking down my listing? Why the double standards?
I expect a response from both ebay and sony picture classics regarding this issue, and addressing all the points I have listed above.
Regards,
Yee-Wei
----------------------------------------
I will update the site with my latest saga on this issue so check back often to see what these shitheads at Sony and ebay has got to say.
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Bill Gates Knighted The World Reacts
Very cool read about a dairy written by an European Doctor during WWII in Singapore.
War Diary
This one makes my day!!
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Monday, March 21, 2005
Dee Veee Dees
Hmmm .... I shouldn't be spending so much money on DVDs ... but the words "Limited Edition" and "Collector's Edition" always have an indescribable effect on me. An exceptionally strong allure :P ... Oh what a sucker ...
Now here goes my latest splurges:
1) Ghandi Special Edition. - Gold case - should be the first print. The subsequent ones are all with black DVD cases. Oh.... pretty :P
2) Rain Man Special Edition - with a transparent clear sleeve. First print too. OOOOh ...
3) Kung Fu Hustle Collector's Gift Set - I got 3 of them hoping to sell them on ebay, but got pulled cos Sony contacted me saying that I have violated their piracy act and that they are the only authorized entity to sell that item in US. I say Screw them. Gonna relist it and see what they'll do to me. But if you guys are interested, let me know. There's only 5000 pieces in the world and it is very cool - with a leather case, and an embossed palm print, as well as other goodies.
4) JFK Special 2 disc editon - this not only contains the Director's cut of the magnificent movie, it also contains tons of extras. Nice :)
Now on my wishlist:
1) Donnie Darko Director's Cut
2) Ray Limited 2 disc edition
3) Infernal Affairs 8 disc edition
4) Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind - Collector's 2 disc edition - Loved this movie ...... "Oh my darling oh my darling clementine"
Now here goes my latest splurges:
1) Ghandi Special Edition. - Gold case - should be the first print. The subsequent ones are all with black DVD cases. Oh.... pretty :P
2) Rain Man Special Edition - with a transparent clear sleeve. First print too. OOOOh ...
3) Kung Fu Hustle Collector's Gift Set - I got 3 of them hoping to sell them on ebay, but got pulled cos Sony contacted me saying that I have violated their piracy act and that they are the only authorized entity to sell that item in US. I say Screw them. Gonna relist it and see what they'll do to me. But if you guys are interested, let me know. There's only 5000 pieces in the world and it is very cool - with a leather case, and an embossed palm print, as well as other goodies.
4) JFK Special 2 disc editon - this not only contains the Director's cut of the magnificent movie, it also contains tons of extras. Nice :)
Now on my wishlist:
1) Donnie Darko Director's Cut
2) Ray Limited 2 disc edition
3) Infernal Affairs 8 disc edition
4) Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind - Collector's 2 disc edition - Loved this movie ...... "Oh my darling oh my darling clementine"
It's been a while!
Wooo wee ....
It has been quite a while since my last posting ... ahahhah ... lotsa things been going on and sucking the time and life juice out of me. So what's been keeping me bz bz ?? Now in no particular order .. here goes:
1) Moved to a new place. Yes boys and girls! I am now happily relocated to Upper Thomson Peirce View Apts. So any of you dudes and dudettes looking for a kaki to supper with, you just call my hotline #96945061.
2) Restuarant got on TV last week. That means business boom. ... But even before the Tv show started, this has been an incredibly BZ month. Can't really complain about that :P
3) Been trying to rush to get my script finalized. And I yes it is done! .... I am quite pleased with the changes to "the Black box". Those interested to have a read, shoot me an email to ask for it. If not, just wait for the short film on it to come out in July :) ... Will start principal shooting next month. So excited!!!
4) Getting ready to re-start my life. Running errands for pple ... My free time is being re-allocated to do other pple's stuffs ... I am truly drained.
Well, that's about sums up the past few weeks. The moving part was definitely tough. Moving forward the next few weeks. Gonna start my midnight jogging routine again and start nourishing my body with better care. Its been neglected for way too long.
It has been quite a while since my last posting ... ahahhah ... lotsa things been going on and sucking the time and life juice out of me. So what's been keeping me bz bz ?? Now in no particular order .. here goes:
1) Moved to a new place. Yes boys and girls! I am now happily relocated to Upper Thomson Peirce View Apts. So any of you dudes and dudettes looking for a kaki to supper with, you just call my hotline #96945061.
2) Restuarant got on TV last week. That means business boom. ... But even before the Tv show started, this has been an incredibly BZ month. Can't really complain about that :P
3) Been trying to rush to get my script finalized. And I yes it is done! .... I am quite pleased with the changes to "the Black box". Those interested to have a read, shoot me an email to ask for it. If not, just wait for the short film on it to come out in July :) ... Will start principal shooting next month. So excited!!!
4) Getting ready to re-start my life. Running errands for pple ... My free time is being re-allocated to do other pple's stuffs ... I am truly drained.
Well, that's about sums up the past few weeks. The moving part was definitely tough. Moving forward the next few weeks. Gonna start my midnight jogging routine again and start nourishing my body with better care. Its been neglected for way too long.
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